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y3k, uptheshakers or the BFC network?

Which will they choose to be the one they don't post a lot on?

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They're still welcome to post here.

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Joy, can I ask a serious question, and with no offence intended to uptheshakers.co.uk.

Why have FB decided to post on UTS and not here?

From a quick tally of their home page they have had a total of 567 posts since launching about 3 months ago. This forum regularly gets that many in less than 2 days. They have less than 400 members in total (that doesn't count active members which will be far fewer), this forum has over 5000 members and 536 active members (users who have used the site in the last 30 days).

The last post on UPS site seems to be July - unless their date is wrong?

I'm not criticising UPS here, just wondering what the logic is for FB to post on a board that clearly isn't used as much as this one.

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In fairness John, if you look at the date of the Forever bury post on the site.

It was when "here" was possibly disappearing.

They have not used it since. Nor have they used the "Network"

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In fairness John, if you look at the date of the Forever bury post on the site.

It was when "here" was possibly disappearing.

They have not used it since. Nor have they used the "Network"

Yes, I know why the forum was started, and that's why I made it clear I wasn't having a go at UTS.

I just wonder why FB aren't using this forum.

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Ha, you can tell I spend too long working with couriers. I put UPS twice instead of UTS ;)

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Yes, I know why the forum was started, and that's why I made it clear I wasn't having a go at UTS.

I just wonder why FB aren't using this forum.

They don't appear to be using any. :~)

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Unfortunately not a lot to say at the moment as no news coming from the Club.. Hopefully this will be rectified in the near future.Sorry guys.

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Unfortunately not a lot to say at the moment as no news coming from the Club.. Hopefully this will be rectified in the near future.Sorry guys.

Hi Joy,

I trust you and the chickens are well.

Did you not have a new comm member appointed prior to the AGM?

sorry to ask you, but Could you point me to where the "new" commitee member communication is/was pre the "en masse" vote in of comm members at the last AGM..

If it wasn't communicated, it was mentioned that that would be a breach of constitution (i was advised on saturday)...article point 2.2 methinks..but you could advise..

asking for a friend!

He asked me to post this also!

Which is lifted from your website so MUST be still current??

BURY FOOTBALL SUPPORTERS SOCIETY LIMITED

ELECTION POLICY vs 2

1. Introduction

1.1. This document is drafted in accordance with the existing Rules of Bury Football Club Supporters Society Limited adopted pursuant to a resolution of the Society at a General Meeting held on 27th September 2012 and the Best Practice guidance issued by Supporters Direct. The purpose of the Election Policy is to ensure that the elections for the Society Board members are conducted in a democratic and unbiased manner and the process and results are accepted as free and fair by all participants.

2. Definitions

2.1 “AGM” means the annual general meeting of the Society.

2.2 “Election Period” means the period from the date each year on which the Secretary issues nomination forms to Members until 3 days after the announcement of the result of the election to which the nomination forms relate.

2.3 “Member(s)” means a member(s) of the Society.

2.4 “Society Board Member(s)” means an elected or Co-opted Member(s) of the Society.

2.5 “Election Policy” means the terms and conditions laid out in this document.

2.6 “EMG” means the Election Management Group.

2.7 “Board Membership and Conduct Policy” means a detailed set of rules and regulations of the Society set out in a separate policy statement.

2.8 “Co-opted Member(s)” means a person(s) who has/have been elected to the Society Board by Society Board Members but not elected by the Members.

2.9 “Indictable Offence” means a criminal offence (other than a spent conviction as defined by the rehabilitation of Offenders Act 1974) for dishonesty, fraud or dealing in drugs.

2.10 “Rules” means the rules and regulations of the Society laid out in the separate Rules document

2.11 “Secretary” means the Secretary of the Society.

2.12 “Society” means Supporters’ Society Limited (also known as Supporters Society).

2.13 “Society Board means the elected Board of the Society including any co-opted Society Board Members.

3. Election control

3.1. In advance of the commencement of the election, the Society Board will appoint members of the Society (who with the exception of the Secretary may not include serving Society board members) to form the EMG. This group shall be chaired by an independent person who is not a member of the Society. The Secretary may be a member of this group. In the event that it is not possible to agree the identity of the Independent chair, Supporters Direct will select the Independent chair.

3.2. No members of the Society Board whose positions are due to be offered for election shall play any part in determining the composition of the EMG or any aspect regarding the conduct of the elections.

3.3. Members of the EMG shall not be eligible to nominate candidates nor be a candidate themselves and shall ensure that they are not associated closely with any candidates and have proper regard to maintaining the integrity of the election process.

3.4. During the Election Period the EMG will ensure that the election is run in accordance with this policy.

3.5. The EMG shall make the final decision as the eligibility of candidates, nominations and valid votes. They shall conduct the count and the result, as determined by them is final. Any decisions taken will be by majority vote and recorded. The Chair of the EMG shall have a casting vote in the event of a tie.

4. Timetable

4.1. The AGM will take place within the period laid down in the Society’s Rules, and the exact date shall be decided by the Society Board by the end of the preceding financial year.

4.2. The Board shall agree the number of vacancies to be elected; if the numbers to be elected differs from the numbers elected in previous years, or changes the number of places to be elected in total on the Society Board, then the reasons why the change has been made shall be communicated to members in the form soliciting nominations.

4.3. The Secretary will circulate a nomination form with advance notice of the AGM at least eight weeks before the AGM.

4.4. The Society Board shall ensure that the membership of the EMG has been agreed by the Society Board before the Secretary circulates nominations forms.

4.5. During the Election Period, the EMG shall manage the process, with the assistance of the Secretary as required.

5. Nominations and eligibility

5.1. Any person wishing to be a candidate for election to the Society Board must be a fully paid-up member of the Society and be nominated by at least two fully paid-up members of the Society.

5.2. The EMG will verify that nominations are from members of the Society. Society members can nominate as many candidates as they wish.

5.3. A signed letter of nomination from a member, or email from the address a member has given the Secretary for receiving Society communications, are acceptable substitutes for a signature on the candidate’s nomination form.

5.4. It is the candidate’s responsibility to ensure that their nomination is valid and submitted in accordance with the election timetable. In order to ensure that candidates can confirm the validity of their nominees, the EMG and Secretary should arrange for candidates to be able to check in advance whether those nominating them are fully paid-up members.

5.5. Decisions over the validity of nominations shall be a matter for the EMG having due regard for the Secretary’s assessment of the membership status of an individual nominating a candidate. Any decision by the EMG not to accept a nomination as valid should be notified to the candidate as soon as possible in order that the situation may be rectified or an appeal heard.

5.6. Candidates must also submit a statement in support of their nomination and may also submit a photograph for publication with their statement (see section 6 below for more details).

5.7. The names of those nominating candidates shall be appended to each candidate’s statement.

5.8. By submitting a nomination, Candidates will be deemed to have accepted this Election Policy, the Society’s Rules, and any other policies and rules adopted by the Society Board and the membership and agreed to be bound by them.

5.9. Specifically, candidates are also self-certifying that they comply with the Society Rules and Board Membership and Conduct Policy relating to eligibility to serve on the Board. In particular, no person can be a member of the Society Board:

• (with the exception of Co-opted Members co-opted onto the Society Board under Rule [67] of the Rules) who ceases to be a Member of the Society;

• who is subject to a bankruptcy order or has in place a composition with his/her creditors;

• who is subject to a disqualification order made under the Company Directors Disqualification Act 1986;

• fails to abide by any rules for the conduct of elections made by the Society Board.

• who has a conviction for an indictable offence (other than a spent conviction as defined by the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act 1974);

• in relation to whom a registered medical practitioner who is treating them gives a written opinion to the Society stating that they have become physically or mentally incapable of acting as a Director and may remain so for more than three months;

• in relation to whom by reason of their mental health, a court makes an order which wholly or partly prevents them from personally exercising any powers or rights which that person would otherwise have;

5.10. All candidates shall leave full contact details with the EMG including email address

6. Statements and Campaigning

6.1. Campaigning under the auspices of the Society will be restricted to the statements submitted by the candidates and to any hustings organised by the Society.

6.2. All candidates’ statements are to be sent by email to the relevant members of the EMG. These will be gathered together and issued with the ballot papers, and include the photograph (if submitted) of the candidate and a list of the members who have nominated them.

6.3. Candidate statements should be at least 400 words long and no longer than 600 words. If a candidate’s statement has more 600 words, it will be truncated and text will be inserted below stating “The candidate’s statement has exceeded the permitted amount and has therefore been truncated”. The number of words counted shall be decided using Microsoft Word.

6.4. Candidates shall not in their statements make threats, insults or derogatory, abusive, racist, sexist or homophobic statements. The EMG will reserve the right to edit any statement to ensure that it does not breach these rules.

6.5. In agreeing to be nominated and so accepting this Policy, candidates shall agree to indemnify the Society for the cost of meeting any liability of the Society that may arise as a result of the contents of their statement.

6.6. During the election neither the EMG nor the Society Board may provide advice to voting members as to the suitability of any candidate nor issue any voting advice to members collectively. Individual Society board members who indicate a preference in public must make it clear that they do not speak on behalf of the Society board and express a purely personal opinion.

7. Appeals

7.1. Candidates or complainants shall raise matters with the EMG whose decision is final.

7.2. Complaints after voting has closed shall be made to the EMG not later than three working days after the close of poll. Any complaint received after this date shall be ruled out of order.

7.3. If any candidate should contravene the Election Policy, the EMG shall judge whether a disqualification should apply and their decision is final.

7.4. Any appeal against the decision of the EMG shall be made through and governed by the disputes procedure as set out in the Society Rules.

8. Result

8.1. If there are more candidates than places available on the Society Board

8.1.1 If Hustings are held before the AGM, the following procedure shall be followed;

8.1.1.1 The EMG will issue postal ballot papers and copies of candidates’ statements with the notice sent convening the AGM.

8.1.1.2 Votes may be submitted by the post up to the day of the AGM, and also deposited at the start of the AGM. The Count shall be made during the AGM, and the result announced before the close of the AGM.

8.1.2 If Hustings are held at the AGM

8.1.2.1 The EMG shall arrange for candidates to address the AGM and field questions from the floor. The EMG will then issue postal ballot papers and copies of candidates’ statements. Votes shall then either be deposited at the AGM or posted to the Secretary to be received no later than 14 days after the AGM.

8.1.2.2 The election result shall be announced within 4 weeks of the date of the AGM starting

8.2 The highest placed candidates in terms of total votes as equal to number of places available for election declared by the Board shall be deemed elected.

8.3 If there are as many or fewer candidates than there are places, an affirmative ballot shall be held at the AGM. Each successfully nominated candidate will be put before the meeting for the approval of members. Any candidate not receiving the support of more than half of those present in person and by proxy shall be deemed to have not been elected. The exception shall be that should the failure to elect any of the validly nominated candidates leave the Board below the minimum required under the Rules for them to act, all validly nominated candidates shall be deemed elected by the EMG and this declared at the AGM.

8.4 The result shall be communicated to members on the Society’s website and in the Society’s newsletter (if they have one) and at the AGM or next members’ meeting (if it is possible to complete the count at the AGM in question).

8.5 Successful candidates shall become full members of the Society Board upon receipt of their signed acceptance of the Board Membership and Conduct Policy.

8.6 The Society Secretary will issue the Board Membership and Conduct Policy to the successful candidates upon the result of the election and should any successful candidate not return the Board Membership and Conduct Policy duly signed in whichever way the Secretary asks for it to be returned within one calendar month, without an acceptable reason for the lateness in returning the document, the election of that candidate will be declared null and void and a vacant position will be created. For the avoidance of doubt, the onus for returning the signed Board Membership and Conduct Policy shall be on the successful candidate not the Society Secretary

Edited by warbie1311

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The chickens are fine thank you, although one has a habit of laying then eating her eggs........, I am feeding her honestly!

To get back to Forever Burys AGM

We didn't appoint a new comm member before the AGM.

The names of the people who were nominated were read out at the meeting and the Forever Bury members attending voted on electing them to the Board.

There was no reason for an election because there were only five candidates sent to the Clarets Trust.

The names will appear in the Forever Bury newsletter and is now on our website.

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My fwend asked me to thank you...its all in the wording...and ignoring written procedure shows a complete disregard for members...He says..

He also says he will watch the video again..

Not a chicken expert...but. ..do all natures mothers,excepting humans, not destroy the imperfect/flawed?

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My fwend asked me to thank you...its all in the wording...and ignoring written procedure shows a complete disregard for members...He says..

He also says he will watch the video again..

Not a chicken expert...but. ..do all natures mothers,excepting humans, not destroy the imperfect/flawed?

No doubt but I think that this chicken has a touch of alzheimers.

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